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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:01 am 
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Are there any C-Max Energi drivers here who could speak to negatives? I seem to read generally positive points here in this forum, but I'm wondering what I should watch out for or be aware of if I get into this car. I am thinking of buying a used C-Max Energi here in Arizona once my Leaf lease runs out. My main thinking is that it's an ok compromise for me.

One thing I do have to ask is if anyone has yet had to replace the main lithium ion battery and, if so, then what the cost was.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:22 pm 
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Ford battery temperature management is much better than Nissan especially in hot climates. The only negative for us so far is the turning radius is not as good as I wish. We get 4.3 miles per kWhr very happy with that.


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jlsoaz wrote:
Are there any C-Max Energi drivers here who could speak to negatives? I seem to read generally positive points here in this forum, but I'm wondering what I should watch out for or be aware of if I get into this car. I am thinking of buying a used C-Max Energi here in Arizona once my Leaf lease runs out. My main thinking is that it's an ok compromise for me.

One thing I do have to ask is if anyone has yet had to replace the main lithium ion battery and, if so, then what the cost was.


The battery warranty is for 10 years. Since the Cmax energi hasn't been around that long, it's really not an issue.

The negatives is definitely the cargo space. A few others include the lower MPG than originally promised by Ford. I believe they had to lower it twice. Also it really hasn't sold that well for Ford. They were originally positioning to compete directly with the Prius and the Prius-plug in. But the numbers never materialized. But I have one and like it.


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x10guy wrote:
jlsoaz wrote:
Are there any C-Max Energi drivers here who could speak to negatives? I seem to read generally positive points here in this forum, but I'm wondering what I should watch out for or be aware of if I get into this car. I am thinking of buying a used C-Max Energi here in Arizona once my Leaf lease runs out. My main thinking is that it's an ok compromise for me.

One thing I do have to ask is if anyone has yet had to replace the main lithium ion battery and, if so, then what the cost was.


The battery warranty is for 10 years. Since the Cmax energi hasn't been around that long, it's really not an issue.

The negatives is definitely the cargo space. A few others include the lower MPG than originally promised by Ford. I believe they had to lower it twice. Also it really hasn't sold that well for Ford. They were originally positioning to compete directly with the Prius and the Prius-plug in. But the numbers never materialized. But I have one and like it.


Ok, thanks, good things to know.


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ebourlet wrote:
Ford battery temperature management is much better than Nissan especially in hot climates. The only negative for us so far is the turning radius is not as good as I wish. We get 4.3 miles per kWhr very happy with that.


Yep the turning radius is pretty bad.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:26 am 
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ebourlet wrote:
Ford battery temperature management is much better than Nissan especially in hot climates. The only negative for us so far is the turning radius is not as good as I wish. We get 4.3 miles per kWhr very happy with that.


A friend of mine had the Nissan Leaf and the battery life kept getting shorter and shorter. He had to fight like hell to get a new battery under warranty. At least the Energi will run on gas and won't let you stranded if you can't get a charge.

My brother-in-law had his battery replaced under warranty for his 2013 Volt. One day it would no longer charge. My nephew has a 2014 electric smart car. His car did the same thing. One day it wouldn't charge. They replaced it under warranty and it took 3 months to get it replaced since no dealers in the entire country had a battery in stock. They had to build a brand new one from scratch just for him.


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TooSlow4You wrote:
ebourlet wrote:
Ford battery temperature management is much better than Nissan especially in hot climates. The only negative for us so far is the turning radius is not as good as I wish. We get 4.3 miles per kWhr very happy with that.


A friend of mine had the Nissan Leaf and the battery life kept getting shorter and shorter. He had to fight like hell to get a new battery under warranty. At least the Energi will run on gas and won't let you stranded if you can't get a charge.

My brother-in-law had his battery replaced under warranty for his 2013 Volt. One day it would no longer charge. My nephew has a 2014 electric smart car. His car did the same thing. One day it wouldn't charge. They replaced it under warranty and it took 3 months to get it replaced since no dealers in the entire country had a battery in stock. They had to build a brand new one from scratch just for him.


Thanks, 2.5 years since I started this thread, but really interesting to get your information.

In the end, I ended up getting a used 2013 Chevy Volt with about 38k miles on it. So far over the last six months and 5k miles, I have seen no issues with the battery. I did take out a loan for the car, and it would be a huge issue for me if the battery did conk out, but, as they say, so far so good. A big part of my reasoning is that I am here in Arizona, went through the Nissan Leaf battery degradation thing myself, and wanted to get a liquid-cooled battery that appeared to have a good chance of holding up. Your point about a 2013 Leaf needing a battery replacement is a good cautionary point, so I don't get too confident that these matters are always clear cut.


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